Srila Prabhupada lectured in Los Angeles on 19 December 1968 on Bhagavad-gita, Chapter Two, verses 62 to 72. The following exchange took place in the temple room: “Tamala Krsna: I’ve always been confused as to… It says here that a pure devotee like Haridasa Thakura would not fall victim to Mayadevi’s temptations, but even Lord Brahma, Lord Siva, might fall victim. I always thought that they were pure devotees of the Lord. Prabhupada: No. They are pure devotees, but they are gunavatara. Just like Lord Brahma is the supreme personality within this material universe. He’s the father of all living entities. So they are… Of course, if we very scrutinizingly study, Haridasa Thakura is, in devotional service, in greater position than Brahma. Although he is considered the incarnation of Brahma, Brahma Haridasa. So we should not be disturbed when we see Lord Brahma and Lord Siva is captivated in that way. We should take this instruction, that is Lord Brahma, Lord Siva becomes victim of maya sometimes, what to speak of us? Therefore we shall be very, very careful. There is chance of falldown even in the status of Brahma and Siva, what to speak of ordinary persons. Therefore we should be very strongly inclined to Krsna consciousnes like Haridasa Thakura. Then we shall be able very easily to overcome the allurement of maya. That is to be understood. Not that “Brahma showed that, what is called, ‘weakness. He is weak or he is less.’ No. That is for our instruction.”