From time to time, devotees have felt it necessary to delve into extensive research about how we fell into this material world - even Srila Prabhupada disciples. Some devotees have even written books on this subject. To research such topics has been condemned by Bhaktivinode Thakura and other acaryas. Bhaktivinoda Thakura said we shouldn't try to trace out the origin of the jivas. He considered this a waste of energy. Srila Prabhupada also spoke many times on this subject. There are many quotes to choose from, but I recently came across the following one in which Srila Prabhupada makes it clear that this kind of writing is a waste of time. Here it is. From a Srimad Bhagavatam 3.26.23-24 lecture in Mumbai on 1 January, 1975. "So some way or other, originally, we are all Krsna conscious, pure, svaccha. Svacchatvam avikaritvam. Now vikurvanata, now, being transformed or agitated somehow or other... anadi karama-phale, padi 'bhavarnava-jale, we cannot ascertain when this transformation took place. There is no necessity of making research how we fell in this material contamination or envelopment. But we should be intelligent enough to understand that we are fallen now. that is... how we fell - you can trace out the history, but it is very difficult because anadi karama-phale, nobody can ascertain. Just like when a man is -- he goes to doctor. So when he goes to the doctor, the doctor gives him medicine according to the symptoms and the diagnosis. There is no necessity of find out the history, how he fell diseased. There is history, but that is not possible to trace out. Therefore it is said, anadi karama-phale. Anadi means... adi means the creation, creation... before creation, I contaminated this desire, iccha-dvesa samutthena. I became revolting to the desires. Krsna says... every one of us revolting now also. Krsna says, sarva-dharman parityajya mam ekam saranam vraja, but we are revolting, 'Why? Why shall i surrender to you? This is too much you are demanding.' This is going on. This is going on. This is the disease."